Feedback form Tutor for ASS3
I had my feedback this week off my tutor. I think it was neither good or bad. I now understand what I need to do. I need to make object look clearer in my work and improve my way of painting.
He mentioned my work looks like a Niave Realism style, which if I develop further I may be able to develop my personal voice.
I was a bit unsure of what I could do, he mentioned to look at Rene Magrittes work which I shall do later on here.
I decided to talk to my cousin Jamie as he is a bit of an Artist and he may be able to help me understand why I am struggling with paint and what I can do.
I am really glad I spoke to him, I showed him my blog and my tutors feed back. He mentioned the following things:
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James Kennedy
Had a read. Also looked up this Rene Magritte geeza
What is your take on what he is saying?
Gemz Lees
I think he is asking me to make my painting more clearer, as he could not tell what some things were. Maybe to see how renew does it and learn and develop from his style not his theory but how he paints clear objects. I think he can see my style but my use of the medium isn't up to scratch. which comes across as a naive way
James Kennedy
Your art is very your art.
It does not need your name on it to be identified as yours
James Kennedy
Many painters can be generic. It's good to have your own voice
James Kennedy
But I think he is saying that your style naive and needs to mature...it's not quite there yet. He is looking for some ambition. The clarity is more detail. The closer to the painting you get the more you see, rather than standing back from the shapes to see the picture...it's that makes sense.
James Kennedy
The criticism is not your style. It's the level your style is developed too.
Need to push the detail. It's fine that it has a caricature style... just need to develop the detail and textures
James Kennedy
I had a look for pictures that may help you too...hang on...
Gemz Lees
Jim I think you got it bang on yes i need to concentrate on detail etc to develop, that's what I thought and input that in my illustrative voice xxxx thanks!!!! :)))
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James Kennedy
These are not photo realistic. The Brad pit is naive art. But it has enough detail for mature interest.
Decrease the size of your brush strokes to get the extra detail
Cheeks can have big strokes. Eyes need fine detail. Eyes draw you in. And by reducing your strokes in those areas you draw in the viewer.
There some clever use of colour n style in the portraits I sent you. Try create an image like them?
James Kennedy
A VERY GOOD EXCERSISE is to do a painting in ONE COLOUR! !!! Colours and shades cam be a very difficult thing. See what you can produce when you take that obsticak out. Just pick a colour and build an image with that. Gives you less things to worry about and you may learn something about your painting...then when you go back to colours you will have a clearer understanding.... like going from manual car to automatic...try it.
James Kennedy
Also. Make your highlights much lighter and your shadows much darker. This will make your art pop more. Give it depth. Perspective. Will add maturity. Flat drawings look naive.
Gemz Lees
Ok great Jim thanks so to develop my art keep my ideas but find an interesting way which I am comfortable with to add detail to get my personal voice. got it!! Jim im going try that out.... I think Im just scared case I dont find a style good enough...Im scared of not being good enough... I have good ideas etc but learning how to paint has been hard... i am going try to do smaller brush strokes n practice n see what happens.
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James Kennedy
1st drawing I did was more naive than the 2nd.
I wanted to go sharper and add detail.
You need to take this step.
But in paint it's much harder
Because a brush is no where near as familiar as a pencil.
James Kennedy
BUT if you don't like the brush. Use a piece of card? Your finger? A knife? Experiment. HAVE FUN. Don't care how it turns out just create and experiment, this will take the pressure off and if you do actually produce something you can submit then all the better for it. Learn how to use the paint. Then put your head down and make a 'piece' (but try and keep the fun and relaxed attitude)
James Kennedy
The beauty of paint is that if it's wrong...paint over it. Don't get so precious with it.
You can use the brush the SAME as you use a pencil. Honest
James Kennedy
Your pencil set he's are so full of energy. Love the cats you did for nan. As soon as you have a brush your work is flat as your brush strokes are big and flat....it shows that your struggling with the medium and not enjoying it. Do a block colour painting. Do a painting with a piece of card. Have fun. Then use the new skills in your work.
James Kennedy
A sponge is a good way of adding detail and texture for painting knittware etc. Be inventive.
Gemz Lees
Thanks Jim, I love drawing, but yep using brush is different ball game... you have motivated me a lot ...I am going to start my assignment 4 now and its landscapes I have to paint.... there will b a lot of detail to put I those...and your right I need to find the fun I have with paint just as well as when i use a pencil or pen.
James Kennedy
Glad I have managed to motivate you. Shame I can't come and paint with you. Would be fun smile emoticon
Maybe come over for a Saturday?
Do some scrapbooking... create textures in paint using different mediums, sponges or cloths, card, toothbrush anything really... see what you create and where the textures would work?
Use the paint like you would your pencils
You will be awesome and it will push your painting to the next level that your tutor is looking for!
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James Kennedy
Flattered you asked me to help tbh
Your art is better than mine
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James Kennedy
If you were submitting pencil drawings he would see the maturity in your style... your painting hasn't got there yet as it's unfamiliar. The painting in one colour and using different mediums will advance you a lot faster than agonising over every brush stoke. If your having fun doing it it will show in the finished product.
James Kennedy
Put your brushed away and have fun
When you get the brushes back out you will have learnt a lot about moving the paint around and how paint works.
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James Kennedy
Experiment with light. Exaggerate it a lot go very light in highlights and very dark in shadows. Really exaggerat them. And stand back. Really pops.
Gemz Lees
Haha jim :)) ....Ok will do light n dark big express :)) thanks for all your advice.
I found Jamie helped me get a clearer picture of what my next step was to develop myself. I had realized that even though I was painting things, I was stepping away and looking at the overall picture, where as that is important but you need to also interest viewer when they look close up, to see the textures and details you have applied, unlike my painting that I have currently done which is not that appealing when close up. there just not much detail at all. I decided to go to the beginning of painting one and properly look at how paint is applied on paper buy using various things other then paint brushes, put them in a scrap book and look at how I could implement these texture in to my paintings to create a more better painting with better detail.
As you can see I have had an afternoon experimenting, I will cut these and put them in a scrap book and write next to them things that may be useful textures to use for different areas. This will help me when I begin painting again, which I am now actually looking forward to now to experiment with. I feel it has helped me to refresh on the basics again as I am not getting use to painting a bit.
Research on Rene Magritte.
I have looks at a lot of Magrittes paintings. Below are my top favourite of his art:
All images are from - http://www.renemagritte.org/
The Lovers I, 1928 by Rene Magritte
Attempting the Impossible, 1928 by Rene Magritte
La Clairvoyance, 1936 by Rene Magritte
Homesickness, 1940 by Rene Magritte
Black Magic, 1945 by Rene Magritte
The Large Family, 1963 by Rene Magritte
Le Blanc Seing, 1965 by Rene Magritte
At a first glance at Magritte's work, I noticed the illustrative concept to which I feel my tutor was referring me to. He painted realistic objects and people but still has a illustrative style to them. I can also clarify this as his work was used for posters and music albums.
I understand also what my tutor means about developing further. When I look closely at Magrittes work, I can see the different textures he has used and detail to create different areas of his paintings. I need to learn from this and use it with in my own work. As I have now practised with different tools to apply paint, I can now look at what I have created see to where I think these can be used to create textures. eg dabbing a sponge is good for bushes and leaves. I have to get use to using other items rather then a brush to do my art work. I discovered that I need to look at painting mediums the same as I do drawing. I need to find ways of using tools to apply the paint, to attain textures that I can create using a pencil when I am drawing (crayons etc). I also need to combat the Chiaroscuro effect and involve more dramatic shadows and light areas to make my work stand out more.
I need to train myself further to see what I am looking at which is of major importance; texture as well as shape. I need to look deeply into the subject and get a feel for light and dark values reflecting reality. Seeing is the gift of the eye so drawing and painting is a way of extrapolating what an individual sees.
My tutor also told me to look at paintings that are more my type of art, so I can relate to them more, which I will do too.
I am excited to begin Assignment 4 and hopefully see a vast improvement and development in my work.